It's just even with the limiter, which has decreased spawns a lot, I don't see to much of a difference in lag.

I don't have any lag at all, it could be your computer/internet connection, Barney.

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hmm i dun know... (design should work in theory) I do know that their is a way around almost every problem in life, and I think the limiter isn't that beneficial, and then to further the spawner trouble, their is an afk kicker (see my post on how to beat that). also i would like to inquire weather the afk kicker has been installed on other server's like the pvp server.

I might also add, Their is No lag... and their never was.... (for me). also the spawner limiter couldnt havent been added over more than an educated guess that it would work. theirs no way youy could have known that it would work, heck theirs no way you would have know it would be able to be installed (compatible) before you tried.

Edit: corrected grammar

Trying to take advantage of the plugins or get around them is a big no-no.

I just realised I have no lag at all when no one is on, but lots when loads of people are on. This COULD be linked to spawners, but this is unlikely as not all will be using spawners (this suggests the limiter isn't working), it could be my Internet but is anyone else getting this?

In addition, the fact people are trying to get around it, shows how it isn't supported in the community. Maybe you should show the community some of this evidence you guys are working on s they understand why it will work? Then they will gain trust in the method and see why it is needed?

Barney, you will not want people to AFK once 1.5 comes out. The market will flood with certain items anyway, but if AFKing is not limited the new 1.5 features will spell complete disaster in the economy for many items. Lom stated that they were not seeking member approval for this - the AFK limiter is here to stay and it's removal is not up for debate.

Regarding the spawner limiter - I do see less lag the majority of the time. Especially less block lag that was probably caused by people AFKing living entity XP farms. I do hear people talk about bypassing both the chunk limiter and the AFK limiter, so I hope mods can identify and reprimand them before those of us who do not cheat are at a disadvantage.

I'm sorry my voice wasn't heard (I even drew a diagram) any ways, this ends my part in this, though it does not change my opinion.... Good day.

-anakata

Edited: spelling

Yes Lance, we all loved your post explaining about how you use a water AFK machine. Though we also heard the PIC state that such actions would be met with a ban hammer. It might be time to stop giving your voice the tone of "hacking" in it's simplest form. Both in complexity and and definition of the word. We already know how to bypass these items and in much more efficient ways.If you are asked to stop kicking babies and you punch them, it is not tolerable. You knew it was bad to kick them cause it would harm them.

Punching them is the same result. If they put a limiter to the amount of mobs in a chunk, a blatant bypass such as this should be delt with. I don't mean that you did it and it just works. I mean posting on the forums a direct undermine to all the changes the server has moved towards.