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[Enjin Archive] PVP Server - Staff PVP Participation
Started by [E] DanniDorrito

Hello Guys,

With the recent changes to the server we are opening up the staff participation decision to you the community. Please use this poll to express and voice your ideas.

This is not a thread to voice your concerns about the current state of PVP or past affairs but rather a thread to make the future of the PVP server something enjoyable by all.

The poll will be open until the end of this year, we plan to improve the server for next year and to do that we want the community to decide how the server is run. Its the community what makes the server so your opinions, suggestions and thoughts are important to us.

Edit: There has been comments below suggesting staff use their alt accounts or have just basic permissions, you can weigh in your views on this too

This is about staff joining in on fighting and factions within the PVP server. Please tick which you feel is applicable to you.
I dont mind having staff, i think its good. And when they are online i can talk to them about what is going to happen with the pvp server going forward. And as long as they dont use their mod abilites (which i know they dont) then im fine with it.
I personally cannot vote for this because I do not want to condemn a staff member to sit by as everyone else has fun. However if there is a "Faction" issues then maybe we could have an outside staff member step in an handle it. That way those who want to play can and other who don't can help.
Now, this is a hard decision. While i know that a lot of the staff likes to pvp and does it on our server (which of course is completely okay), i also see a problem in dedicated pvp staff getting involved in it (aka me, Danny and MasterJack).

That is why i have not voted yet. I will vote once i get some more opinions here...

Personally i don't really pvp with people, i'm actualy tryiong to stay as neutral as possiple.

I would'nt have a problem staying out of pvp.
Personally I think the staff should do one of two things if they want to continue participating in PVP:

1: The simplest (tho maybe not most fiscal for some) would be to have an alt account that is not staff and when they PVP, they use that....no use of staff abilities would be allowed and they would in essence just be players

2: The other would just be to remove all staff who participate in PVP to be stripped of power in the PVP server which wouldnt be too hard but i feel if there is some issue requiring staff assistance or petition work, we would be very limited.

the thing i like about #1 is that if something happens, we can just hop accounts really quick and already have logs and such from being ingame with our alts. Most staff already have alts anyways so this wouldnt be too big an issue for most of us. I do not think staff should be restricted from PVP as we are still a part of the community and some of the staff really do enjoy it. (personally, i dont really participate, but i do hop over from time to time to help with issues that pop up)
Zionia wrote:
Personally I think the staff should do one of two things if they want to continue participating in PVP:

1: The simplest (tho maybe not most fiscal for some) would be to have an alt account that is not staff and when they PVP, they use that....no use of staff abilities would be allowed and they would in essence just be players

2: The other would just be to remove all staff who participate in PVP to be stripped of power in the PVP server which wouldnt be too hard but i feel if there is some issue requiring staff assistance or petition work, we would be very limited.

the thing i like about #1 is that if something happens, we can just hop accounts really quick and already have logs and such from being ingame with our alts. Most staff already have alts anyways so this wouldnt be too big an issue for most of us. I do not think staff should be restricted from PVP as we are still a part of the community and some of the staff really do enjoy it. (personally, i dont really participate, but i do hop over from time to time to help with issues that pop up)

This is nearly exactly what i have said and so i agree with you, but my opinion about #2 is slightly different. I think that staff that still wants to participate should keep powers like kick, mute, ban and CO perms. So basicly the perm group lists need to be copied and nerfed and seperate them to something like mod-pvp and mod-nopvp - mod+-pvp and mod+-nopvp, admin-pvp and admin-nopvp groups, the mod(+)/admin-pvp group perms will be nerfed down to kick, mute, ban and CO perms and acces to the PE system ofc. Thats kinda my opinion about this.
8x8johan wrote:
Now, this is a hard decision. While i know that a lot of the staff likes to pvp and does it on our server (which of course is completely okay), i also see a problem in dedicated pvp staff getting involved in it (aka me, Danny and MasterJack).

That is why i have not voted yet. I will vote once i get some more opinions here...

Personally i don't really pvp with people, i'm actualy tryiong to stay as neutral as possiple.

I would'nt have a problem staying out of pvp.

I agree, not an easy decision to make...

From my point of view, I like to PVP, i'm completely and utterly terrible at it, but I like to.

Although, it wouldn't particularly bother me if I couldn't, as all I do is die anyway <object class="emojione" data="https://resources.enjin.com/1489581540/themes/core/images/emojione/svg/1f61b.svg?0" type="image/svg+xml" standby=":p">:p</object>

Again, I haven't actually voted, but I see nothing wrong with Staff PvP; all staff are mature enough not to abuse their powers <object class="emojione" data="https://resources.enjin.com/1489581540/themes/core/images/emojione/svg/1f642.svg?0" type="image/svg+xml" standby=":)">:)</object>
I made a text edit and the damn poll restarted >____>

Please revote, sorry guys x
Still undecided, but I have an idea...

If it turns out Staff are not to be involved with PvP, I request there are "Staff PvP 'Tournaments' " if you like, where staff may still PvP, against any willing opponent, but to be supervised by another member(s) of staff, if need be, along with several members.

This way, Staff may still participate in PvP. <object class="emojione" data="https://resources.enjin.com/1489581540/themes/core/images/emojione/svg/1f642.svg?0" type="image/svg+xml" standby=":)">:)</object>
I don't see why staff shouldn't have the chance of whacking us to death <object class="emojione" data="https://resources.enjin.com/1489581540/themes/core/images/emojione/svg/1f642.svg?0" type="image/svg+xml" standby=":)">:)</object>

Without staffly powers, they are no different to us, it would be wrong to assume automatically that simply being staff makes them better or worse than others, once their staff-related perks are gone.

I'm all for staff joining in the bloodbath, or raiding, or whatever, as long as they are ungodded, unflying, undamage-modded etc etc As long as they have equal potential to us, I'm perfectly ok with it.

Just in case you DIDN'T get that:

*Staff are given equal powers to us regular players during a fight

*Staff don't use flight to staff powers to get into a base - including using the x-ray I hear staff are allowed to use for certain occasions.

*And that no creative is used to spawn in items - they have to obtain their gear or wares themselves.

Think that's all....