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[Enjin Archive] NO NO NO!!! OMG NO !!!!!!!! DON'T!!!!! This will ruin EVERYTHING!!! (MAIN2)
Started by [E] alexpet888

Okay due to the original text(see below) being quite spammy and un informative I have tried to clean it up...

So the problem goes like this I was looking at the list for the revamp when i came across this:

Inventory transfer system from Classic to Agharta (Credits fee per transfer, no iron, gold or diamond and other items to be specified)

So a part of me was like woah what!?! And I'm not going to lie I was raging a little thinking that we would be able to move lots of items for prices that are out of lower lv (if thats a thing) people's grasp and into the range where the top of the top (/money top <what happens if there is a player named top 0o dang it tangent again...) I saw this as just remaking the gap between new and old players just on a different server...

However down a few posts madster has a great post on the PLUGIN that they are working on.

(I responded so my full thoughts are there )

CRAP Warning editing this poll or any part of this post will reset the current poll results.

not sure about formatting but here:

Yes inv. transfer system

10 votes 66.7%

Nope.avi that would be very bad

5 votes 33.3%

Number of voters: 15


Inventory transfer system from Classic to Agharta (Credits fee per transfer, no iron, gold or diamond and other items to be specified)

Inventory transfer system from Classic to Agharta (Credits fee per transfer, no iron, gold or diamond and other items to be specified)

Inventory transfer system from Classic to Agharta (Credits fee per transfer, no iron, gold or diamond and other items to be specified)

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NONONONONONO

If main2 is meant as a fresh start this will RUIN EVERYTHING!

Also this kinda implies that the credits will transfer over also not cool!.....

PLZ DONT DO THIS

PLZ DONT DO THIS

I can't stress this enough this will ruin EVERYTHING THAT IS GOOD ABOUT MAIN2

.....

The poll is just to insure im still sane and im not missing anything obv about this...
I (used to) agree, this would be very bad for Main2 and it's fresh start.

However, there will be a big charge for anybody wanting to take items over to Main2. AND, you're not allowed to take diamonds, iron, gold as well as other items to be specified.

Yes, Main2 would be good as a complete fresh. But an inventory full of bricks, for example? Isn't going to ruin the economy on Agharta, and it's only bringing in more building supplies (Which will probably used up immediately anyway). <object class="emojione" data="https://resources.enjin.com/1489581540/themes/core/images/emojione/svg/1f642.svg?0" type="image/svg+xml" standby=":)">:)</object>

Don't stress it <object class="emojione" data="https://resources.enjin.com/1489581540/themes/core/images/emojione/svg/1f44d.svg?0" type="image/svg+xml" standby=":thumb:">:thumb:</object>
Like MasterJack said, there will be a fee to transfer the items which won't be cheap and all items that are considered to have a too high or altered market value currently on Main will be prohibited. It's mostly only going to help with building supplies.
I can tell you now that you can transfer people might actually play Main2. you see to be out numbered at a 5:1 ration
can this fee can this be an item cost not mtc because then the people who have the advantage on main will still have a huge advantage on main2 and the fact that the people on main now would have to buy items to transfer would drasticly help the prices on basic supplies and help some of the smaller shops get some notice... I could see people like hk (if hes going to play main2) buying double chests of stone bricks... this would help so much in the demand starved building bock economy...

Also:
@775624 wrote:
you see to be out numbered at a 5:1 ration

I didn't see this as a fight just me not fully understanding this and I still believe that this is a bad thing however swine has cleared some things up for me. also very interested to see his response.

I also like how you instantly took this as closed stating a 5:1 not looking at the poll that has an 8:3 ratio after only 2 hours and that means that it has lots of interest and should be looked into more then just the few people who have publicly stated their opinion.. I personally see this as the major tipping point for main2's success and your notion that people will only play with this... is just absurd and unfounded there are a small minority of players who are seeing this revamp as a bad thing and they are the most vocal because they understand the only way to change it is to speak up however the people who agree with it are much more passive about sharing their ideas because they understand that the change is almost guaranteed to happen...(at this point unless swine pulls the plug or something goes wrong with the server its happening its not a one of thig and the /d, /kittycannon, and /rename are just the start as the main post stated... man that was a tangent...)

Again thanks for reading also i regret making such a spammy and 1/2 trolly op as that probably distracted from the true gravity of the situation I believe that this should be fully investigated and i'm 1x101000000000% sure that swine and the other admins/staff will do what they think is right after careful consideration.
@2171005 wrote:
can this fee can this be an item cost not mtc because then the people who have the advantage on main will still have a huge advantage on main2 and the fact that the people on main now would have to buy items to transfer would drasticly help the prices on basic supplies and help some of the smaller shops get some notice... I could see people like hk (if hes going to play main2) buying double chests of stone bricks... this would help so much in the demand starved building bock economy...

Also:
@775624 wrote:
you see to be out numbered at a 5:1 ration

I didn't see this as a fight just me not fully understanding this and I still believe that this is a bad thing however swine has cleared some things up for me. also very interested to see his response.

I also like how you instantly took this as closed stating a 5:1 not looking at the poll that has an 8:3 ratio after only 2 hours and that means that it has lots of interest and should be looked into more then just the few people who have publicly stated their opinion.. I personally see this as the major tipping point for main2's success and your notion that people will only play with this... is just absurd and unfounded there are a small minority of players who are seeing this revamp as a bad thing and they are the most vocal because they understand the only way to change it is to speak up however the people who agree with it are much more passive about sharing their ideas because they understand that the change is almost guaranteed to happen...(at this point unless swine pulls the plug or something goes wrong with the server its happening its not a one of thig and the /d, /kittycannon, and /rename are just the start as the main post stated... man that was a tangent...)

Again thanks for reading also i regret making such a spammy and 1/2 trolly op as that probably distracted from the true gravity of the situation I believe that this should be fully investigated and i'm 1x101000000000% sure that swine and the other admins/staff will do what they think is right after careful consideration.

I made my statement out of common sense. What i have said it public opinion. I don't need to even see a statistic, I already know that is a closed matter. I will also add that this transfer is the only thing that is going to make me switch. i am not the only one who feels this way.
@2171005 wrote:

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Hey, I am currently coding the plugin for the item transfer. Think about this. In minecraft, the largest possible place to store anything is a double chest. What Darkpsy and I are planning on using is basically a virtual inventory. So, it's not like someone can transfer over a doublechest full of items.. only an inventory full, and as sawine stated, it will be pricey.
Don't you think the title of this thread is a bit......excessive?
@775624 wrote:

I made my statement out of common sense. What i have said it public opinion. I don't need to even see a statistic, I already know that is a closed matter. I will also add that this transfer is the only thing that is going to make me switch. i am not the only one who feels this way.

This is just bad there is no consideration here at ALL you are just restating your oppinon with no facts supported... when you state that this is "public opinion" just what does that mean have you polled people or are you mearly projecting your narrow views onto other people with the justification "im sane so other sane people must believe this..."
@1028183 wrote:

Hey, I am currently coding the plugin for the item transfer. Think about this. In minecraft, the largest possible place to store anything is a double chest. What Darkpsy and I are planning on using is basically a virtual inventory. So, it's not like someone can transfer over a doublechest full of items.. only an inventory full, and as sawine stated, it will be pricey.

Okay thanks this is like 100% more info then we had before i thought this was going to be a /pe system where new players who don't know how or are afraid to (i know when i was starting out the mods and admins were scary i was so scared of a ban...) again thank you for clearing this up its very helpful to know this will be a plugin (this shows even more thought is being put into it and thats great). my problem with a /pe system is that the new players aren't going to know about it.. example until umm 2-3 weeks ago I had no idea you could get things transferred onto main from creative. yes its pricey but could have saved me a lot of time new players just don't know or ask about the stuff you can do with /pe

Again thank you for your reply as it has been helpful on shedding light on the situation.

Also sorry for the long post i have a lot to say on the matter and believe that this is important.

now while i was typing this someone else replied let me look at that...
@213781 wrote:
Don't you think the title of this thread is a bit......excessive?

Yes I had apologized about the spammy nature in a later post I might try to clean it up a bit however when i saw this i was kinda freaking out... as i thought people might be able to bring over crazy amounts of stuff... and the more i learn the more i'm not freaking out however would still love to see what all the players think not just the haters. (no names lance****** <cant tell who he is =p (bit of dem old troll to keep the day interesting) )

Again thanks for your post whatitdo ill look into cleaning it up a bit.