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[Enjin Archive] Bannable or will we be kicked?
Started by [E] Salar

We have two different staff members stating two completely different punishments for the same offense. Actually one stating there is almost no punishment at all. I just want to know for my benefit if we can use a macro to AFK. I know we "can't" but if you are just going to kick me then people might still do it. If we get it out in the open that it is banable then no one can say they have an excuse.
Lomanic wrote:

This plug-in was instituted to assist in the stability of the server, to reduce lag, and cut down on the drain that some of these "AFK Spawners" can put on the system.

It was not instituted to benefit the staff over the members or to balance the economy in game. Making auto move macros defeats the purpose and if needed, players using macros to keep themselves moving while they are not actually playing, will be kicked.

Its a very small minority that has an issue with this plug0in, a vocal one, but a minority still by a wide margin. This plug-in aids the entire server and will not be taken down just improve the afk farming skills of a very small minority.

the information that needs to be out about this is on page 1. The plug-in is not being removed.

/locked
Zionia wrote:
there is no way with a macro to set it up as macros are keyed by pressing a key. you cna have a msg pop up every time you enter a command for it, but thats it.

circumventing the AFK Plugin = Bannable offense...just fyi <object class="emojione" data="https://resources.enjin.com/1489581540/themes/core/images/emojione/svg/1f609.svg?0" type="image/svg+xml" standby=";)">;)</object>

Can we clarify what is what?
Both are valid, if we kick and warn you the first time and you don't do it, it could lead to a ban. Just don't do it.
I would protest, but i doubt it would make a difference. its been proven in dozens of threads then when the staff have their mind set to something they absolutely refuse to change their minds. no matter what the players have to say. I could post the links to more than a dozen locked threads... but again what would be the point...

-anakata
That was not the point of my question though. Though my government is a democracy the rest of my world is a dictatorship. When I grew up people did things to/with me that I hated. Regardless of what I wanted to eat I was forced to eat a balanced meal because my parents said so. I grew older and in school regardless of what I wanted to learn and do, I went to specific class's at specific times.

I now have a job and do what I am told regardless if it is proper or moronic. I make my son do what I feel is best now regardless of his opinion. As much as I would like things around here my way that is not an option. We are run by dictators and must cope with it or defect. Though I disagree with some of the changes here, MineTown has been much better than other servers I have encountered so far.

This small bit of compromise is by far easier to cope with. I am simply moving my spawners to places that I am already at working. In some cases bringing things to work on to my farms. Either way the AFK kicker is not too horrible. Just not something I am in love with.

MineTown is not my perfect server but it has a wonderful balance of what I Want/Need and does a good job to ensure players are happy and grief free.
The purpose of the plugin is to prevent afking. Any script/macro for anti afk is a direct violation of rule six. Therefor can result in a ban.

I can't speak for the other staff but I will ban anyone that is caught using one. Members shouldn't be trying to avoid the rules with any method. This afk kicker was put in to reduce lag. Not to see if members are capable of finding ways to avoid it.

It's really not the end of the world for anyone. If you have a spawn trap you should be there to monitor it at all times. The rest of the members shouldn't have to deal with lag cause you afked a spawner for 2 hrs or more. You have already stated a simple suggestion I hope others read it before they get banned.
Salar wrote:
That was not the point of my question though. Though my government is a democracy the rest of my world is a dictatorship. When I grew up people did things to/with me that I hated. Regardless of what I wanted to eat I was forced to eat a balanced meal because my parents said so. I grew older and in school regardless of what I wanted to learn and do, I went to specific class's at specific times.

I now have a job and do what I am told regardless if it is proper or moronic. I make my son do what I feel is best now regardless of his opinion. As much as I would like things around here my way that is not an option. We are run by dictators and must cope with it or defect. Though I disagree with some of the changes here, MineTown has been much better than other servers I have encountered so far.

This small bit of compromise is by far easier to cope with. I am simply moving my spawners to places that I am already at working. In some cases bringing things to work on to my farms. Either way the AFK kicker is not too horrible. Just not something I am in love with.

MineTown is not my perfect server but it has a wonderful balance of what I Want/Need and does a good job to ensure players are happy and grief free.

I agree with you, minetown is by far the best server I have ever heard of, for me minetown's style is the kind of thing i like in a server. my only real problem with the what has been said to me, imposes that i may be banned for being afk, But i do not use macro's i simply use a water circle. which always keeps me moving, thus i am not afk (as far as the server is concerned) i am just concerned because when doing it it does not feel like wrong as stealing is... my opinion/statement about not changing still stands, and no one has said anything to the contrary. minetown is still the best server i have ever been on. (most server's refuse to change anyways)
No big change here and most of us can move our farm nearby a standard work area so it produces more often and so we have other stuff to do while waiting on the farm. It will be fun to make an efficient work / farm area.

My one concern is - identifying someone who is using an illegal AFK bypass is difficult. From what I understand, it is hard to tell the difference between me waddling about every 8 minutes on my own and someone who is using a software/bypass method to do it for them. I don't want to be accused of cheating after spending time to monitor the farm, nor would I want someone who is using illegal methods to have an advantage over me and never be identified or reprimanded. I hope there is a good way to identify AFK bypassers so they can be dealt with and so that non-cheaters are not at a disadvantage.

The amount of people talking about bypassing the AFK Limiter concerns me. I refuse to use an illegal AFK bypass and I don't want have the short end of the stick because I willingly follow the rules. This is not bitch, gripe, moan, or complaint - only a concern because I am hearing it from respectable people every time I login. How can we broadcast to everyone that using an AFK Bypass in any fashion is illegal and not tolerated?
Odarus wrote:
No big change here and most of us can move our farm nearby a standard work area so it produces more often and so we have other stuff to do while waiting on the farm. It will be fun to make an efficient work / farm area.

My one concern is - identifying someone who is using an illegal AFK bypass is difficult. From what I understand, it is hard to tell the difference between me waddling about every 8 minutes on my own and someone who is using a software/bypass method to do it for them. I don't want to be accused of cheating after spending time to monitor the farm, nor would I want someone who is using illegal methods to have an advantage over me and never be identified or reprimanded. I hope there is a good way to identify AFK bypassers so they can be dealt with and so that non-cheaters are not at a disadvantage.

The amount of people talking about bypassing the AFK Limiter concerns me. I refuse to use an illegal AFK bypass and I don't want have the short end of the stick because I willingly follow the rules. This is not bitch, gripe, moan, or complaint - only a concern because I am hearing it from respectable people every time I login. How can we broadcast to everyone that using an AFK Bypass in any fashion is illegal and not tolerated?

I could not agree more!

The only thing, is the broadcasting. You can broadcast it all you want, but there will always be someone who is doing it. About the only want to tell if someone is using a AFK bypass, would be for staff to TP to them, and see for their selves. It's not really anything more to it then that. If, there by a small chance, was a detector, wouldn't you think that with it, it would just cause the same amount of lag to the server, as the spawner farms did?
Its ok most people will follow the rules but it will be next to impossible to identify people abusing it, most of the time, you don't have to use any kind of auto macro (if one exists) you would be using features of the game. anyways all is good, minetown is usually a good community. my apologize to anyone was offended.