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[Enjin Archive] Euclidion: Unlimited Detail in Games
Started by [E] Coffeey

To give a bit more info on the videos linked:

Yes, this is real. Developers have known about this for years. The structures used to manage the data are called Sparse voxel trees, but they have a lot of issues. if you look through the videos, you'll notice that everything is a copy of everything else. Sparse voxel trees make it really easy to render the same object many times at different locations, but it starts to get to be a real mess once you start to want to rotate some of the copies, or position them at different orientations. Furthermore, you'll notice that there is nothing which is animated. Sparse voxel trees are extremely hard to animate, especially once you have to animate all the copies independently.

So what happens is the only way they're able to fit something like this within the memory requirements is through making everything a copy of one tree, one flower, five pebbles. But to make a proper game, you can't do that since for SVTs you have to create different structures for each rotation, each animation frame. All of a sudden you blow past the available memory.

(note, this information is about a year old, about when the first video was released. There's a good chance some of it has changed since then, or it might even be wrong by now.)
Jared5595 wrote:
Imagine what this technology is going to be replaced by in 10 years? You remember the polygon count in Spyro? Nowadays, MW3 is thousands of times better. This is thousands of times better than MW3. Sooner than later, we're going to have consumer 3D simulation contraptions that allow us to do anything, and feel everything!

This is true. But it will be developed by the porn industry long before the video game industry can get it done.
Fettuccini wrote:
Jared5595 wrote:
Imagine what this technology is going to be replaced by in 10 years? You remember the polygon count in Spyro? Nowadays, MW3 is thousands of times better. This is thousands of times better than MW3. Sooner than later, we're going to have consumer 3D simulation contraptions that allow us to do anything, and feel everything!

This is true. But it will be developed by the porn industry long before the video game industry can get it done.

Cyber Aids......

Mother of god.
What if Bethesda took ALL of the elder scrolls games, made one epicly massive game out of it, and use Euclidion to generate all the graphics?

I'd never see my fiance' naked again
Fettuccini wrote:
Jared5595 wrote:
Imagine what this technology is going to be replaced by in 10 years? You remember the polygon count in Spyro? Nowadays, MW3 is thousands of times better. This is thousands of times better than MW3. Sooner than later, we're going to have consumer 3D simulation contraptions that allow us to do anything, and feel everything!

This is true. But it will be developed by the porn industry long before the video game industry can get it done.

Absolutely nothing wrong with that <object class="emojione" data="https://resources.enjin.com/1489581540/themes/core/images/emojione/svg/1f600.svg?0" type="image/svg+xml" standby=":d">:d</object> <object class="emojione" data="https://resources.enjin.com/1489581540/themes/core/images/emojione/svg/1f600.svg?0" type="image/svg+xml" standby=":d">:d</object> <object class="emojione" data="https://resources.enjin.com/1489581540/themes/core/images/emojione/svg/1f600.svg?0" type="image/svg+xml" standby=":d">:d</object>

ahaha <object class="emojione" data="https://resources.enjin.com/1489581540/themes/core/images/emojione/svg/1f61b.svg?0" type="image/svg+xml" standby=":p">:p</object> x
Danny wrote:
What if Bethesda took ALL of the elder scrolls games, made one epicly massive game out of it, and use Euclidion to generate all the graphics?

I'd never see my fiance' naked again

If that happened I'd probably never see myself naked again LOL x

Lol.... because one person says "It's a scam" means we must all believe him and follow his path.... right...

Its fine to be sceptical about it, it would be a very nice thought if they are able to implement it and do future gaming development with it.

Stop ruining our hopes for future gaming <object class="emojione" data="https://resources.enjin.com/1489581540/themes/core/images/emojione/svg/1f61b.svg?0" type="image/svg+xml" standby=":p">:p</object> x
Tbh, the way technology and games are developing, this kind of thing has to come eventually, the only real questions are who it will come from first, how well it will work and when it will come! This company claims to have created this technology however even they say, in the latest video, that it will be a long time before it is ready, so another company may infact release a similar technology before them! I don't see why everyone is so sceptical about this, when it is quite clearly coming and it's not exactly impossible at the moment! It's really just the usability of it that is questionable at the moment due to other technology restrictions, such as the hardware in current Game Consoles!